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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Feb 8, 2011 7:55am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Chemicals

I am a Deadhead who doesn't smoke pot, and Tiki fan who doesn't drink booze .
Almost everyone I have met thinks I am on drugs ( especially acid ) ! Most of the friends I have who did do drugs would say "... you don't need it , you're weird enough without it ". I took from Frank Zappa , his mistrust of drugs ("LSD came from the CIA") , from him I got the suspicion that drugs were just an update of the martini . My interest in ,popular at the time, eastern mysticism, took me to the actual sources of Hinduism, and Buddhism that were anti drug .
I also watched my friends who partake , become dull, , made me wonder if this was really a good thing . I don't enjoy the buzz of alcohol, I feel less aware . At my early Dead shows, I am sure I was getting a bit of a contact high ( clouds of pot smoke) and the sound DID get better as the concert went on. , I suspect I would like it more than booze , sure as hell rather be around a bunch of potheads , than a bunch of drunks !
Maybe there is some " deeper" aspect of the Dead that I fail to attain, because I didn't take acid, but It does make me a little more aware of the band's failings, that some of it's more starry eyed worshipers , yet still LOVE the music , warts and all .
No, you don't have to take , of have taken drugs , to love this music , just a heart that is open, and a mind that will let the heart have it's way .

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Feb 8, 2011 10:07am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Chemicals

>At my early Dead shows, I am sure I was getting a bit of a contact high ( clouds of pot smoke

Yeah ... people can say they never dropped acid, but you really can't say you never smoked pot if you ever went to a Grateful Dead show.

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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Feb 8, 2011 10:14am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Chemicals

The only way you "didn't inhale", was if you didn't breath ...

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Feb 8, 2011 10:22am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Chemicals

Exactly ... this was my only scruple in taking my teenager to see Furthur this summer. I felt I was not only, in effect, condoning the various practices we observed all around us, I was actually getting him stoned.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Feb 8, 2011 10:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Chemicals

http://www.archive.org/post/313315/why-do-you-bring-small-children-to-a-show

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Feb 8, 2011 10:45am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Chemicals

Oh, yeah, I remember. I totally agreed. My kid was 17, not little. Still, in a way maybe that's worse, regarding the drugs at least ... there was definitely no way to avoid a contact buzz.

I am glad I was way out of this scene by the time it becamse so crazed, in the nineties. My era, or at least my friends, were mellow ... yes, people took various substances, but this was normal, *everyone* puffed this or that or took a hit of something that was passed around - but nobody acted bad - a wild and crazy night ended at the Pancake House at 3 a.m., you know? When we really felt nuts we all went back to someone's house and made a big pot of coffee. I think we were square hippies, or hippy squares.
I could get all political about it :) I blame Ronald Reagan. We did not believe we were being radicals or rebels for smoking a little something, it was the norm. It was barely illegal. Later it stopped being the norm, and in reaction college kids went crazy.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 8, 2011 12:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Chemicals

For us it was JackintheBox. I know, I know, but it was the only one predictably open, and Ihop/Dennys req'd going in, interacting, etc....I can still recall thinking that "this jumbo jack is the best thing I've ever tasted; it's better than sex AND the DEAD put together!"

Yes, I was that hungry. Recall we'd go get in line at 3 pm; there was NO scene on the street outside Winterland. You couldn't get any food originally, unless you went to the bar (there was in inside at some pt? Hmm, not sure, but didn't have money either), which we couldn't have, as kids (< 21).

We were STARVING at 1 am while driving home...and yes, we stopped at Jack's before sex, before more drugs, before any more music.

Sad?

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Feb 8, 2011 3:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Chemicals

Familiar. Sad was having to drive back to Palo Alto with the windows wide open trying to stay awake. :)